by September 12th, 2009. Filed under: ectopic pregnancy.
Here is what he had in the sidebar…
AN ECTOPIC PREGNANCY IS SERIOUS: CONSULT YOUR DOCTOR.Answering The Question for DprJones http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD4jWC…
http://www.essortment.com/all/ectopic…
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24888923/… an ectopic pregnancy the beginning of life starts outside of the uterus. Because most ectopic pregnancies develop inside the fallopian tubes, most people refer to them as tubal pregnancies. Ectopic pregnancies cannot develop normally, only the uterus contains the space and nutrient rich tissues that are required to nurture a fetus. One other location an ectopic pregnancy can occur is in the ovary itself. Because the ovaries and fallopian tubes are so narrow, a developing pregnancy can cause a rupture. A ruptured tube can produce severe bleeding and can be life threatening. An ectopic pregnancy can occur anywhere in the pelvic area.
It is estimated that 1 in every 200 pregnancies results in an ectopic pregnancy. Once you have experienced an ectopic pregnancy, if you conceive again you have a 10-15% greater risk of having another. Approximately 30% of women who have had an ectopic pregnancy will have difficulty getting pregnant again. There is no clear reason for ectopic pregnancies. If you develop one, there is a great chance that you have some sort of scarring within your uterus or fallopian tubes. This may have been caused by infection, a previous ectopic pregnancy, the use of an IUD or as a result of your mother taking (DES) Diethylstilbestrol during your own fetal development. If you became pregnant while using an IUD or if you had surgery on your fallopian tubes in the past, such as a tubal ligation, you may be at a higher risk for an ectopic pregnancy.
Jan 25, ‘06, 8:41 am
Posts: 689
Religion: Cradle Catholic
Re: Abortion And Ectopic Pregnancy
Originally Posted by CherDash
Hi,
I was on a message board, and the subject of abortion came up. Someone posted that the Church is against abortion in all cases, and specifically mentioned even in the event of an ectopic pregnancy. I believe they are misinformed. In the case of an ectopic pregnancy, there’s no chance for the baby, and the mother’s life is endangered. Since the Church believes in the sanctity of human life, I don’t believe the Church is OK with a woman dying when her life can be saved and there is no way the baby can survive. Also, I was wondering about anencephaly and abortion. The mom’s life is not in danger usually in this situation, but the baby is either stillborn or dies shortly after birth. What is the Church’s stance on this? Also, is there any other scenario where the Church would not object to abortion? I would appreciate any input. Thank you.
I just had an ectopic pregnancy that thankfully resolved itself without my needing surgery. These are the options my supposedly pro-life doctor gave me (keep in mind that I was not in immediate danger of bleeding out, unlike many women who present with ectopic pregnancy) :
1) Wait it out– since I wasn’t in immediate danger, I had the option of resting and waiting to see if the miscarriage would progress naturally on its own, and my body would then heal itself. I had strict instructions to come to the ER immediately, should I have any symptoms of dangerous levels of internal bleeding.
2) Go ahead and do surgery to remove the tube (or part of it), to avoid putting your life in possible danger, sort of like a preemptive strike
3) Take the methotrexate
Of these three, in my case, the only moral choice was waiting it out. The second choice would only be morally acceptable if I was in immediate and certain danger of bleeding out without surgery (I wasn’t, praised be to Jesus). The third choice is never acceptable, for reasons already stated by other posters.
I had regular blood tests to make sure my blood count never dipped, and to test my pregnancy hormone levels to make sure I was really having a miscarriage (the doc wanted to be certain the baby hadn’t implanted on an organ outside my uterus and continued to grow, for instance).
So, contrary to what a lot of people may think, it is possible to avoid an abortion even the case of ectopic pregnancy. Intentional abortion is NEVER acceptable, a direct attack on the baby is NEVER acceptable. Also, I think I am correct in stating that by the time the surgery becomes necessary to save the mother, the tube itself has already ruptured (therefore causing the excessive bleeding), and this most always itself causes the death of the baby. If someone knows better, please correct me!
Hope this helps
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Filed under: ectopic pregnancy
September 12th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Right on both counts
Right on both counts
September 12th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
he wont listen to …
he wont listen to atheists and anyone who actually follows his medical advice is a retard.
September 12th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
I call on everyone, …
I call on everyone, christian or atheist, who has a conscience to go to Geerup and DEMAND he take these videos down immediately. Please, before someone dies.
September 12th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Geerup, stupid …
Geerup, stupid monkey will not take this ing video down until someone has died. If I could get my hands on him…GGGRRRR!
September 12th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
…. unbelievable
…. unbelievable
September 12th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
When I was training …
When I was training to become a medic in the military, I witnessed many medics who couldn’t effectively do their jobs saving lives for fear of injuring the patient.
This guy reminds me of those guys.
Ex:
Tom: Hey Ted, don’t do any treatment because you might hurt the patient.
Ted: I don’t have to worry about hurting the patient any more because he’s dead.
September 12th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
No, an exception to …
No, an exception to the rule is just that, AN EXCEPTION! A RARITY! Calling out an exception is not a valid argument. Because the cases you have used as an example are so rare, it would be stupid to expect the same case over and over again. This statement in its himself false because an fetus cannot develop in the fallopian tube, IT WILL BURST! And both will DIE! Have you shown any consideration for the mother’s life other than the baby’s?! AARGH!
September 12th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Geerup are you nuts …
Geerup are you nuts?.. time? wait?… generally speaking when you find out you are carrying an ectopic pregnancy its already to late to wait! It is not killing a baby. something growing in your fallopian tube is going to eventually kill you. my god man i wish you were a woman clutching your sides in agony as pain rips into you, while some man sits telling you to wait. Time is something you do NOT HAVE.
September 12th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
i agree if tere is …
i agree if tere is a high chance to save the mother AND baby it should be taken. BUT if it is high risk to the mothers life or high risk of the babys dieing then the best thing is to abort the pregnancy
September 12th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
There is no such …
There is no such thing EVER of a pregnancy going to term of an ectopic pregnancy……BECAUSE…..the fallopian tube does not and cannot expand to accomodate a growing fetus. It will always BURST, thus indicating the need for immediate surgery to remove the tube.
September 12th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Certain DEATH WILL …
Certain DEATH WILL occur if the fallopian tube bursts. There is no “wait it out”! If a woman “waits it out” and she cannot get emergency treatment right away….she will die. It is that simple. What if a woman lives a great distance from a Hospital? She will die.
September 12th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
I think the most …
I think the most insulting thing he said besides this was in the video he did about abortion before, in which he said that there was a different between war time killing and murder.
If you’ve seen his new video he says I did’nt say wait it out, I said with medical supervision. Regardless he should keep his mouth shut.
He also talks down to everyone, what a stupid dick whit.
September 12th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
I ask you, for …
I ask you, for liability reasons, to please remove this video. There are GU fans out there who actually believe what this tool says. I know you have kind of a disclaimer in the title, but I urge you to remove this video or at least make it private before anyone takes his advice. Other videos will show how much of a moron he is. This one isn’t necessary and is actually extremely dangerous.
September 12th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Takes him 7-8 …
Takes him 7-8 minutes to say, WAIT until the “child” in the fallopian tube is beyond salvage (there is “bleeding” and the “child” is dead or dying–he doesn’t specify) and ONLY THEN remove it.
The problem: by then you have SEVERELY risked the life of the mother, if she isn’t already dead.
EPIC DUMBASS !!!
September 12th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Geerup is the poop …
Geerup is the poop stain in the underwear of life!!!
he blocked me and I can’t talk to him any more
September 12th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Wow… it took him …
Wow… it took him 6:40 to kinda maybe sorta answer the question. Nice one GEERUP! I wish i could talk with more people like you.
September 12th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Giving medical …
Giving medical advice these days, is he? I am shaking with a cold rage at this moment.
September 12th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Why, in his mind of …
Why, in his mind of course. You fail to realise that Geerup doesn’t require something as base as reality to arrive at his conclusions.
September 12th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
and his …
and his intelligence :p
September 12th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
It reminds me of …
It reminds me of NephilimFree’s music.
September 12th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
this is truly …
this is truly painful to watch
September 12th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
When has …
When has thunderf00t pointed out exception to the rules and claimed victory in a argument?
September 12th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
‘the fail is strong …
‘the fail is strong within him.. ‘
may I use that in future should I ever be speechless when I am confronted with monumental failure again?
thank you Alucard.. wise words..
September 12th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Wait it out? There …
Wait it out? There is not going to be a baby in this case, so what is the point of waiting? Either the body will miscarry, the tube will rupture, or you can avoid this through surgery/drugs.
September 12th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
WTF with the music?
WTF with the music?